s "secrets of the belfast project." watch it or dvr it. it's coming up. richard is a former author and it seems a perennial lightning rod for controversy. cnns red chair team sat down with him to get his thoughts on creationism and what he would say as an atheist if he met god. >> be fascinated by it. i don't think religion has anything useful to teach us. one of the main reasons why people are religious is because they are persuaded by the design of living things. it's completely destroyed by darwin. if you read any book by a biologist about evolution, it's hard to see how you could fail to be persuaded of it. the evidence is just absolutely -- there's no doubt about it. it's not a controversial issue. it's completely certain. it's as certain as the fact that the earth and the other planets orbit the sun. more than 40% of the american population think the world is less than 10,000 years old. that's a shocking figure. it shows deep, profound ignorance. it sounds very laudable to teach the controversy, to teach both theories. there's not two theories. ther